Amplified: The Chesapeake Public Schools Podcast

Keeping Our Schools Safe

March 11, 2024 • Chesapeake Public Schools • Season 1 • Episode 9

Safety within our schools takes center stage as we sit down with Penny Schultz, Assistant Director of Safety and Security, and Matt Hamel, Commonwealth's Attorney, to get a behind-the-scenes look at the strategies and dedication driving the local School Safety Task Force. Discover how collaborative efforts across city departments are keeping our schools safe. As Schultz and Hamel detail the strides taken in protecting our students, you'll gain invaluable insight into the proactive measures to keep our schools secure.

Your voice matters, and we extend an open invitation to contribute your perspective at the upcoming School Safety Forums! Together, we're not just building safer schools; we're creating a safe space for education and growth. Join us in this pivotal conversation, because when it comes to our children's future, every voice can make a world of difference. 👉 Visit https://www.cpschools.com/page/safety-and-security for more information.



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Speaker 1:

Beginning Monday, april 8th 2024, you will have the ability to register your child or children for the 2024-2025 school year. Visit cpschoolscom for any and all information regarding how to register your child. Welcome to Amplify the Chesapeake Public Schools podcast.

Speaker 2:

Amplify Schools is located in the Hampton Roads area of southeastern Virginia. We serve 40,000 students in 45 schools and 3 centers. This podcast is designed to tell the stories behind our story and to introduce and celebrate the people and programs that make us one of the premier school districts in Virginia. Well, so here we are again another episode of Amplify, the Chesapeake Public Schools podcast. I'm Richie Bab here with MagRam and Matt. I'm glad you mentioned enrollment because you know I mean my tendency would be to wait until, like I don't know, august.

Speaker 1:

You know what I mean. I would recommend doing that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no we shouldn't do that. If you know your kid's going to Chesapeake Public Schools starting in the fall of 2024, starting April 8th you can start the registration process, because registering is not just saving your kid a seat in a teacher's classroom, it's setting up transportation routes, it's making sure you have all your medical information that you need. So our recommendation to you is starting April 8th, you can start registering your kid and then you can spend your summer by the pool and not have to worry about oh, I got to register my kid. Oh, finding that form.

Speaker 1:

Yeah right?

Speaker 2:

Oh, I got to call the doctor's office, I got to get a vaccine. So let's take care of all that now, so that you have a summer where you don't have to worry about Enjoy your summer, enjoy your summer.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, don't worry about that. I like that.

Speaker 2:

I like that.

Speaker 1:

So we got someone who commented from our previous episode on dual enrollment. Yes, that is correct and I'm very happy about that, because we always say you can find us or visit us. Please share your comments and shout out to this parent who did that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and you can ask us anything. If you click let's Talk, and we actually have really a good story. What is recently run was a bonus episode on dual enrollment, where kids in high school can register or sign up for classes in a way that they get high school credit and college credit Right. So this parent heard this and I mean it's a pretty good testimonial. He said, when he's talking about his son, when he arrived on grounds at UVA he was considered a third year meaning everybody else are called a junior when students he graduated from high school with were entering as second year students. So he says dual enrollment offered him a second chance and he's very happy to say that he'll graduate in May from the only school he wanted to attend, other than TCC.

Speaker 2:

But he went there. You know, obviously dual enrollment, uva offered him a second chance due to him utilizing the dual enrollment opportunity he was able to take a part in. As a parent, I'm a big fan. On behalf of my son, thank you. I'm telling you that dual enrollment if you haven't heard that, go back and listen to it. If you have a kid that's in high school or about to be in high school, it's a way to.

Speaker 2:

I mean, here's a kid that another success, another success story went to UVA, entered as a junior right Because of his dual enrollment and I'm sure in some part is AP classes, because he took a few AP classes as well, but the dual enrollment really made a difference for this student. He's graduating in May.

Speaker 1:

So that's amazing and thank you, and thank you for sharing that and thank you for having us, because this is sort of the interaction we're looking for and having this two-way conversation with our listeners that are out there as well.

Speaker 2:

So if you have a story, if you have an idea, something you'd like to hear about, something you're curious about, go into click the let's Talk and look for, Ask Us Anything that's right, or just go to cpschoolscom forward, slash, amplify and it's there.

Speaker 1:

It's right there, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Click away. Yeah. So today, though to change the topic a little bit, today's episode is all about school safety. It's an upcoming school safety forum that includes the school safety task force. I don't know if people in our community actually knows that there is a school safety task force Right?

Speaker 2:

I mean, I'm not sure they would.

Speaker 3:

Yeah but there is.

Speaker 1:

And we highlighted that in this episode coming up with two individuals.

Speaker 2:

Yep, and I want you to, and we'll introduce them when we get into the show. But pay close attention to school safety is on everybody's mind. We cannot not be diligent about it, and we're going to talk to two people who are very diligent and who are going to give you the latest on our school safety efforts. All right, thanks for joining us here on Amplify, the Chester Republic Schools podcast. And today, a subject really we probably could have done and could do all the time, which is school safety, because it's such an important part of what we do here in the school district. But we're here to talk about that today, and our guests are Penny Schultz, who is Assistant Director of Safety and Security.

Speaker 2:

And Matt Hamill is with us, a Commonwealth Attorney for the city of Chester. Peek is with us as well, and you may wonder why we have the Commonwealth Attorney here. Well, because he's a Commonwealth Attorney and he's involved in our school safety planning. We'll talk more about that, about our school safety task force.

Speaker 1:

Right. So welcome to the podcast, welcome to our show, and one thing that we do to start us off is for you to go ahead and tell us a little bit about yourself, a little bit about your background. So, penny, do you mind going ahead and sharing with us your background?

Speaker 3:

I don't. My career began I started as a police officer for the city of Virginia Beach, did that for a few years and realized my passion was actually on how we curb criminal charges, curb arrests of our juveniles. Where do you better? You know where best to do. That would be in school system. So I became a career switcher and have been in the school system for several years since then, now leading the last two years into this role as the Assistant Director of School Safety and Security, which is near and dear to my heart.

Speaker 2:

And a busy job.

Speaker 3:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

Very good. How about you, Matt? What's your background?

Speaker 4:

So I actually was originally relocated here with the Navy back right after well. I was working in New York City on September 11th, was an eyewitness to the World Trade Center attacks and I joined the Navy after that. I was going to law school at night and the Navy sent me down here and I was a prosecutor in Norfolk, did some operational tours, went to Iraq and then transitioned to the reserves. After that, I was in private practice here locally for many years. I ran for city council in 2018 and was fortunate enough to be elected to that job, which is where I had my first introduction to the school safety task force, because I was one of two council appointees to the school safety task force. And then, in 2021, I ran for the vacant Commonwealth's Attorney's seat. There was going to be vacant and I was fortunate enough to win that race.

Speaker 4:

But I think my biggest claim to fame from all of this has nothing to do with politics or my law career. It has to do with being a dad of four kids. All four of them are either a graduate of Chesapeake Public Schools my daughter eldest daughter graduated from Grassfield in 2020, and I right now have three kids in three different grades at Grassfield High School, a senior, a junior and a freshman. So I've got a personal vested interest in all this in addition to my official or professional role.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so tell us what the Commonwealth Attorney does. What are your responsibilities of that?

Speaker 4:

job. So essentially we are what many jurisdictions call the district attorney. So my role as the chief prosecutor for the city of Chesapeake is to run an office comprised of approximately 30 prosecutors and another 25 or so support staff and our main statutory responsibilities to prosecute all felonies for the city of Chesapeake and certain misdemeanors. However, we we do prosecute a lot more cases than we are statutorily mandated to take on. For example, we assign a prosecutor for every DUI case that occurs in the city and we assign a prosecutor to any case that originates on school property or involving a firearm, things of that nature.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so that's sort of sounds like another busy job.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, right. So school safety is on everyone's mind. It is our top priority here at Chesapeake Public Schools. Penny, can you share with us sort of some of the things that fall under school safety?

Speaker 3:

That's a big topic.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

So I had to say, in essence it encompasses everything from physical security all the way to social, emotional security for student staff and faculty in our in our district. What that means is everything, in every avenue, every department in our city, there's something to do with safety. Right, our number one goal is to make sure that our students and staff have a safe learning environment. So when we look at that, we look at everything from Crime prevention through environmental design, how schools are set up, how they're structured, how traffic flows all the way down to Do our students feel safe to come into school and while they're there for six plus hours, do they feel safe?

Speaker 3:

Do they have resources in the school that they can report situations or incidents to, or any anonymous information that they may have overheard? That may they may think is irrelevant, but is Super important to what we do to make sure that we're stopping everything in anything before it comes to fruition. So in essence, we pretty much leak into every single avenue. Our office is extremely busy. We get called from everything from student enrollment to school plants, to new construction, to consistent training. One big piece that our office takes on is Consistent training with staff, faculty administrators, to make sure that we're doing our due diligence and nothing falls between the cracks as we look at consistency efforts as it relates to safety initiatives that we've put in place in Chesapeake right, right.

Speaker 1:

And and what do you think that your office has seen since you've been here for the past two years? Or where do you think we have maybe improved the most, or what has changed a little bit since you've been here?

Speaker 3:

I would say the biggest piece is information sharing and transparency for the things that we can share. As you know, safety is just that in and of itself safety and we don't. We don't like to put everything that we've done out to the public Just because it could compromise safety, but everything that we can share, we try to be as transparent as possible. We hold, you know, multiple different forums, whether it's community engagement, joint City Council meetings, where we share information, our websites up and running, so there's information on there as well. But the biggest I think accomplishment is is making sure that our practices are consistent across every single school.

Speaker 3:

Historically, when you, when you think of a school, that principle is you know the person in charge of that school and, without any guidance or if we never started school safety and school safety initiatives, they're running how they see fit and in you know, within their world, in their realm of experience.

Speaker 3:

What we want to make sure is we're doing everything we can in our power to make sure we're upholding the critical components of safety and we're looking at all of you know any and all new initiatives that come down after Unfortunate previous experiences across the nation of catastrophic incidents. So we look at all of those reports, those commissioned reports, and we make sure anything that you know they may have recommended or they they thought that could have been improved or could have prevented those incidents, we take a real deep dive into all of those Reports and then it's our job in the school safety task force to say this is what we need to do, this is what we need to change, and sometimes they're quick little tweaks of things we can change. But the important, key component is making sure our community, our faculty, our staff, our students know what those changes are and they uphold them in their buildings on a daily basis.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, school vestibules come to mind as something that must have come out of that process, right?

Speaker 3:

Yes, yes, it's almost in essence make sure that we have that three-tier safety mechanism in place. It's that triple locking door system that if someone tries to enter and gets through the first Door, then there's the second and then there's the third that is consistently locked, which Ultimately gives us time. When we think of school safety, especially in the worst imaginable case that could happen and you're talking school shootings the biggest factor we fight against isn't you know when that person is, how quickly we can resolve the situation. For us, we fight against time. When you look at it as a school side versus a law enforcement side, you say what's the critical component we fight against is time. Where do we find the most time and how can we ensure that our faculty staff and students have the most amount of time To get in a position where we can save as many, if not all, lives before police respond?

Speaker 2:

right. So, matt, what's the? Give us some insight on school safety. I know what it looks like from inside the school district, but give us some insight from from your side, from the law enforcement side.

Speaker 4:

Well, I also want to piggyback on a couple things that Penny said, because I've been a member of this task force now going on, I guess, five or six years and it really is a multi-disciplinary Team of individuals that comprises so many different city Departments, not just the school system, not just my office of commonest attorneys, but we've got mental health folks, we've got EMS folks that come fire, police, sheriff's department. There is a collaboration of, so of the Transportation folks, the bus, you know, the fleet management. So many people come together To provide input and really take a lot of time out of their schedules to be part of this multi-disciplinary Team and I think that, as Penny said, I think the communication has been terrific. But if you look back at what? When we started this back in 2018, we were looking across the school district and Really making a lot of different like some basic things, like making sure lighting outside was fixed in every area, making sure the sound systems were working every we're looking at fencing and how the entrances and the egresses, how people were coming and going, and making sure that all of these things were done in a very controlled, professional manner as well as safe manner. And then and we have not me but we that the team has put together and we've got classified documents of checklists of things that we've been doing over six years and some of them have been have been absolutely amazing. A lot of them have taken some resources, some money, but it has been a truly a collaborative effort and it is really great to see because right now the task force is sort of co-led by Penny from the school side and Bob Geis, one of the deputy city managers, and you see the full support of both of these teams and everybody that reports underneath them in a truly symbiotic manner.

Speaker 4:

And we even have other city council members that that are members of the task force me as an elected official in the city and we all bring a lot of different skill sets to the table and, as Penny said, we'll also look at what are things that are happening, not just in response to tragedies, but what are some of the best practices and guidance that's coming out of these things and make sure that we implement them in our. So we're looking at different technology that we can enhance whether, if there is an incident, how can we respond to that, how can we reunify students with their families. We've done live fire exercises where we've had actual shootings and shut down schools for the day, and we've had police and fire. And I've gone, and several members of the task force have even gone, into the high schools to go to actual active shooter drills with the students and we've sat there and and some of the things that the kids are, what our kids have to go through is so different than what we grew up thinking about. Yes, I mean they've got masking tape, some of them on the floor where it's like these are kill zones, so we got to get behind the masking tape so that we know that if a shooter's shooting in here we won't get hit.

Speaker 4:

And the teachers are coming up with creative ways to protect their own classrooms in addition to the guidance that we're trying to put out. So I think it's important to highlight a lot of the work that has gone in truly over the last five or six years, and I think that parents and students should feel very happy and very positive about all of the things that our school system and our joint city schools task force have done. And I think there's other people that come from other school divisions to our task force to see how we're doing it and they will implement, they will even start task forces based upon what we're doing, and we're already six years in and so, like Penny said, there's, about, you know, a lot of classified stuff that we can't divulge that we're doing, but people should have a lot of confidence that this is a very, very serious topic.

Speaker 4:

And one of the last things I'll say and I don't know if I answered your question directly I don't know if you did either, really, but what you're saying so interesting, keep going, but what really has. I mean, look, when I ran for city council and then again for this job, here's what I think, why people live in Chesapeake. I mean people don't move here for the nightlife, right?

Speaker 3:

I mean let's be honest about that.

Speaker 4:

But they move here because we have some of the absolute greatest schools in the state. We also have one of the safest cities in the state, right.

Speaker 4:

So you're coming here for good schools and safe streets and if we don't implement that and make sure that we are bringing that to every role that we have in this city, then we're failing the citizens, and I think that this task force is a perfect example of a symbiotic relationship among some very good people who have the city and the students best interests at heart and, and honestly, for me personally, it's been an honor to be a part of this task force and working alongside people like Penny, and I think that's what makes the city so special is we have so many people who who just want to work and serve in the city for the right reasons, and nobody on this task force cares who gets the credit, as long as as the schools are safe and the students are safe and that's really a beautiful thing yeah, everybody on that task force, regardless of their role, takes that so seriously, and not because they don't want to be the person to drop the ball, but because they care about kids and and staff and they care about safety.

Speaker 2:

We see so many tragedies.

Speaker 1:

I love the fact that we have so much work going on to avoid, to avoid that yeah, cuz I'm not even sure that the community really knows that there is a school safety task force that's out there, so it's nice to share that with our community and let them know that there are great things going on and happening To keep our schools safe. Like you said, we can't divulge everything right, but there are a lot of things there that we're doing that are best practices.

Speaker 4:

Another thing that has come up recently and this is something I think the task force is very proud about is the relationship with the sheriff's department and our sheriff and police department, and I think there were eight Sheriffs deputies who are now full-time in the schools, adding additional school resource officers to supplement or compliment the work that our police department is doing. I mean, that's just a one microcosmic example of something that's come about this year.

Speaker 2:

That, yeah and I can tell you the principles in the schools are the beneficiaries of that program Absolutely love it, yeah, and I think it lends confidence to parents. You know, sometimes, especially if you have a little one, it's kind of scary to think you know they're gonna be in that school all day. And seeing an SRO, seeing somebody that has safety first, is, I think, is probably Reassuring for for a lot of these parents. I'm gonna come and change the topic just a little bit, because part of what we Do in school safety is strictly manage who comes into the building. What should a parent who is gonna go to a school that maybe hasn't been to a school before, what should they know about what they need to be able to get into the school and and transact their business?

Speaker 3:

So part of that vestibule process and that visitor process is just that. Unfortunately, due to events that have happened across the nation, we have to be a little bit more structured and strict on who we allow in our buildings. So part of that process is, if you plan to visit the building, know that you will be screened on a camera first. There's footprints outside of every single camera that you can stand on. The school security or school resource officer will look at you. I mean, obviously we want to make sure we're doing a visual check before anyone comes in our buildings, they will ask you for ID.

Speaker 3:

You have to have a valid government issue ID. They'll ask you to show that in the camera before they even buzz you in or allow you in that building. Once that's done, they'll buzz you in. What we do ask is and I know this is this is a hard ask sometimes and it's even for us as school officials coming in. I can even tell you our superintendent, dr Cotton.

Speaker 3:

He gets asked for his ID when he comes to the door and stands and does the same thing presses the intercom button tells his Another piece is the security officer will ask what your purpose is like how can I help you? Do you have a meeting? Is it something that we even have to? You know? Is your visit and tell something? We need to let you come in, or I mean we can even address and bring your child out to you, right? Because?

Speaker 3:

that process can be long and sometimes the lines are long. Yeah, one one piece we ask is that as hard as this is, is there are oftentimes people waiting behind you, right? So we just ask once you're buzzed in, you and your family unit may be buzzed in, and you all have shown ID and you've come in and you're in that second tier of safety with the school security officer in the vestibule, please don't hold that door for the person behind you.

Speaker 3:

It's really hard, but it's almost like I apologize, but you have to go through that process first and the security officer will normally tell the next person in line. I'll be with you in a moment, if you can stand on the footprints, to assist you with that. But that's a hard conversation sometimes because we're taught historically courtesy. And then, once you're granted access into the vestibule, then you'll have your ID. The SS, the security officer we call them SSOs will take your ID and they run it through what's known as our raptor system. That runs it through the state sex offense registry to make sure that you're allowed to be on property.

Speaker 3:

Once that process is done, they'll notify the individual or individuals who you're there to see or whatever your need is for that that moment, and then they will come and retrieve you and then escort you through the building wherever you need to be. You'll also get an ID raptor label, an ID badge to wear. Have to wear that on your lapel somewhere. The SSO should be taking the little sticky tabs off for you so you can stick it right on there, because our staffer and students are also trained if they see a stranger in our building and they they're not aware of who they are or why they're there they don't have a label on, then they're directed to report that to an adult and or the adult will Escort that individual back to the security vestibule to go through that process again and make sure that they're there for a legitimate reason.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, All right. So we talked in some detail about the school safety task force and it looks like from some of your plans that you're trying to get some community input. Tell us about the upcoming school safety forms.

Speaker 3:

Well, we have two that are coming. The first one is scheduled for March 20th at Indian River High School from 530 to 7. We would encourage anyone and everyone who's invested children in the school or not, no children in the school If you're invested in school safety, please come out and join this forum. What we will have is a panel of representatives from different members of the school safety task force, so we could have anyone from police, fire, emergency management, rescue, state police. Come with attorneys office, city council's office, we have school board members, we have superintendents, so there's several people that we could have on that panel. We're still working out the list, but if you want to know and see this collaboration in the works and how it really comes to fruition, this is a great place to come and do that, also to hear about some of the really great work that we've done through the school safety Task force over the last six years.

Speaker 3:

Again, we can't divulge everything right but you know many of the pieces that we have done and that we have put out prior and anything that we are currently working on that we can share. We'd like to kind of give an overview of all of that hard work that we have done and let the community know that you know this is what's really going on in our schools and this these are pieces that we're doing and putting in place to make sure that your kiddos have a safe learning environment To come to.

Speaker 3:

At that form, we will also allow a Q&A. So if any of our community members parents, families they want to come and they have questions about school safety, something they don't really understand, questions about some of the information we put out, that's the time and place to ask. We also, more importantly, really want to hear from our community. What else can we be doing? Because, even though we have all the big, brilliant minds in the city coming together, we need that piece. Yeah, they're the parents. They hear from their kids. If you really think about the brilliant minds, of what's happening in a school, that's it right.

Speaker 2:

Right yeah.

Speaker 3:

Right, we need that input. If there's something we can be doing or ideas that parents have or things that they're hearing from their kids like I'm just not real comfortable at this part of my day because of these reasons share with us. Let us know. We can bring it back to the school safety task force. We can dissect that information and find out how we can make life better for our kiddos and our communities and our schools. That's its purpose.

Speaker 1:

Right, and let's say a parent can't make the form for some reason. Are there community resources out there for parents to go to in the meantime to take a look and see what's going on?

Speaker 3:

Yes, so my office has a web page that's up and running. On that web page there are specific links to what's called Report Line, where it's anonymous reporting. The way it's worded is for our kiddos to be able to report to their administrators anonymously, but anyone can click on that link and fill it out.

Speaker 2:

And do.

Speaker 4:

And do yes, right, yes. So let's talk about something.

Speaker 3:

What are you concerned about? If you can't make the form and you have questions or you want to provide just some input or ideas, please use that app. Let us know. You can choose my office, Office of Safety and Security, where that report will go directly to and we can have a conversation. I can reach out to you or I can respond through the let's Talk app. We'd be happy to hear that.

Speaker 2:

And that link's available, I think, on every page on our website. That's right. Yes, yes, every school has it there and people are taking advantage of that.

Speaker 3:

And my email address is also on there. So if you'd rather have a more private conversation or email me with any questions concerns, you can do that too. I would prefer the let's Talk app just because that comes directly to me quickly and we're on it every morning, every morning, first thing in the morning. Sometimes, you know, emails get inundated.

Speaker 2:

Right, that's true. Yeah, that's true, matt. What do you hope that the task force gets out of these forums?

Speaker 4:

Well, I think it's a lot of what Penny said. It's a two-way street, right. I think the main component is not only an opportunity to educate the public and the parents and the students on all the great strides that have been made so far. That's one piece of it, but the other piece is certainly to have that interaction and to receive feedback and, as Penny said, we will take that back to the task force. When we first started the task force back five or six years ago in 2018, it was kind of a more of an ad hoc. We all came together, all these different disciplines, and we really did make a lot of great strides and then that kind of morphed into. We created subgroups that came out of it, and so now we have, like, a physical security subgroup, we've got a grant subgroup, we've got a mental health subgroup.

Speaker 3:

Communications.

Speaker 4:

Communication subgroup and training. So what we've tried to do is we've made a lot of progress, but we're now getting to the point where and this is an ongoing thing Right, and just like how, when you go to the airport and how life changed for all of us after 9-11, you're never going to make something 100% full proof. It just is not possible. Just like you see these mass shootings around the country.

Speaker 4:

But what we can do is be as proactive as we possibly can to think about in a very deliberate way all of the possible vulnerabilities that we have and the things that we need to do to continue this continuum of progress, and I think that that, for me, is really the main purpose of the forum is to give a little bit of feedback to folks about these things and then also receive a lot of feedback about things we may not be thinking about.

Speaker 4:

And my biggest concern with forums like this and I see this when I used to serve on city council too is you don't oftentimes get the people to come to these forums that really need to have the information and or to provide the information, and so one of the reasons why I was I'm very happy to be participating even in this broadcast with you all is to get the word out so people will come. Come provide your feedback, get educated. This is not a confrontational sort of a thing where we're all in this together, quite frankly, and we're happy to receive constructive feedback to make things better, and I think everybody on that task force is very receptive to that mindset.

Speaker 2:

And it really gives you an opportunity. It's like a whole bunch of new eyes and ears out there, from perspectives that you may not have on the task force. And give us the dates and places for those again, penny.

Speaker 3:

I know I said the first one, I apologize. It's March 20th at Indian River High School from 5.30 to 7.00 PM, and then the second one is May 22nd at Western Branch High School, from 5.30 to 7.

Speaker 2:

So they're both identical.

Speaker 3:

So if you can make, one, you can make the other. But again, just to piggyback off what Matt said, it is critical for us to hear from our community. We sit in the chairs because and we're in it every day but we also don't see from the outside end. So there's no idea that's too small. There's nothing that would not be taken and received very well from this school safety task force and the panel members. We're eager to hear what our community has to say. Provide us feedback, please All right.

Speaker 1:

Well, I want to say thank you all for shedding a light on all the things that are happening with school safety in a positive way and how we are, like you said, Matt, being proactive as much as we possibly can. Community out there, please. You heard the call let's get out there to the forum. We definitely want to hear what you have to say, what your concerns, your feedback, so the school safety task force can take that back and move forward with all that information. Thank you all again for participating and coming in.

Speaker 2:

It's been nice having you.

Speaker 1:

And we'll see you next time. Yes, indeed.

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